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Sluts and Horndogs?

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This post is part of the February Synchroblog “Cross Gender Friendships”.  The links to other participants’ contributions to the synchroblog are posted at the end of this article.

Women are not from Venus and men are not from Mars. We are human beings, brothers and sisters, associates, neighbors, and yes, friends from the same planet.

As a pastor in the eighties and nineties, I was taught to follow Billy Graham’s advice and never be alone with a woman who was not my wife. I followed that advice… sometimes.

When I was in training to be a pastor, I was a security officer at the same hospital where my wife was a nurse. One day the word got out that I was having dinner with a beautiful young blond in the hospital snack shop. The two of us were obviously having a great time together. The news quickly spread through the hospital soap-opera-like grapevine and got to my wife. She replied that she knew about and approved of the liaison I was having… with my cousin from out of town.

My best friend at my second church was a woman just a few years older than me. I relied on her perspective, encouragement and comfort. We thought of each other as brother and sister and never anything other than that.

At my last church, the same thing happened with a woman slightly younger than me who also became my administrative assistant. We shared a lot of life together and would do most anything for one another. I always regarded her as a great friend. Period.

I also have some cautionary tales. A pastor friend really did have an affair with his best friend’s wife that left a lot of lives in turmoil. Fortunately, area pastors gathered around him and his wife and their marriage was restored.

There was a woman who admitted she was sexually attracted to me. We told our life partners and that was that.

At the other extreme, two women in the church and I were considering going to a nearby conference. One of the women informed me she would not go because it would be “improper.” I was hurt by that, especially since there were two women going and not just one.

Those who warn us about the dangers of cross-gender friendships have certain presumptions.

They seem to imply that the paramount thing about human beings is our sexuality, like we are mostly raging hormones and gender-specific body parts overcome by uncontrollable primordial impulses.

They seem to imply that we cannot control ourselves and that those of the opposite sex will try to seduce us as though everyone is a slut or a horndog.

We can’t trust ourselves or others to have a normal adult friendships. It will turn into something sexual.

Unfortunately, they seem to believe that a true cross-gender friendship is impossible.

These presuppositions are wrong on every point.

Buying into avoiding cross gender relationships has some very negative effects.

It is demoralizing when we think of ourselves and others as animals who cannot control our impulses.

It deprives us of 50% of our potential relationships and all of the richness that can result from these friendships.

It keeps us from a deeper understanding of some the general perspectives of the other gender.

Are we sluts and horndogs, i.e., do we have inappropriate sexual impulses sometimes? Let’s just be honest and stop playing around with pretension or falling into shame; of course we do. We are sexual creatures; but that is not all we are. Sometime these “impulses” are thoughts, but they can become obsessions and even work their way into the reality of our life and relationships. So, there are some potential hazards with cross gender friendships.

But then there are potential hazards with same gender relationships, too. We could get drunk with our buddies or girlfriends and do something stupid. Or we could talk about people of the other gender of whom we know precious little and reinforce inaccurate stereotypes.

Yes, we need to avoid being idiots and letting a relationship go somewhere it should not, but that is not a good reason to avoid 50% of humanity.

Here is the list of the other participants in the synchroblog:

Glenn Hager, the author of An Irreligious Faith: How to Starve Religion and Feed Life, encourages independent minded people of faith through his writing, speaking, consulting, and one-on-one relationships.

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17 Responses to “ “Sluts and Horndogs?”

  1. Dan Brennan says:

    Thanks for sharing this, Glenn! So much rich experience. Loved the post.

  2. Liz says:

    I made a mistake when I created the list of links. I should have used the name “Maria Kettleson Anderson” rather than “Maria K Anderson” If you can I would appreciate you making the correction. I apologize for the inconvenience.

  3. kathyescobar says:

    best.title.ever.

    thanks, glenn, for sharing, and yeah, it’s sad that our fear can lead to missing out on deep and meaningful relationship with 50% of the population. so glad to be synchroblogging with you again :)

  4. Our culture can be so reductionistic of both men and women! And we can be so much more. It’s far to easy to live down to the expectation, it would seem. Thanks for a great post, Glenn, that calls us to more than that!

    • Glenn says:

      Jennifer – Objectification and reductionism really are such a big part of our shallow, valueless culture. We are definitely called to more than that.

  5. Amy M says:

    Your story about your cousin was hilarious, and very telling. Uhg, You know, what it really shows is just a real lack of trust in other people, assuming the worst. Why are we so trained to assume the worst in that situation? Rhetorical question. -And I agree with Kath, best title ever.

  6. You really nailed this. Yes, life is complicated, and people mess up, but as you say, it’s demoralizing – and wrong – to think we’re unable to control ourselves. We all struggle with temptation – in different ways, to different extents, and we need the people we love to hold us accountable in areas where we struggle. Wise boundaries help us all – but life is diminished, and so are we, when we set the guard rails too high.

  7. I love the fact that you SOMETIMES took Billy Graham’s advice. :-)

    And I also like the honest observation that we are sexual creatures, but that is not all we are. We’re not defined by that are we? We are sons and daughters of the Living Elohim. brothers and sisters of the Son, containing Christ in jars of clay,

    HalleluYah!

  8. Liz says:

    Great post, Glenn! I’m so glad to see that so many are starting to see that avoidance is not the answer to potential hazards of cross gender friendships. The answer is that we learn to love other’s in healthy, respectful ways.

    PS Like everyone else has been saying … your title was da bomb!!!!

  9. Liz says:

    *others … not “other’s” ugh

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